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Ignition spark maker - WARNING do not tamper with this equipment unless you know what you are doing as a high voltage is necessary to create a spark

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13th October 2010

The idea was passed to me by a fellow model engineer that it might be worth trying an electronic igniter which run on a 1.5V battery. The packet says "Quick multi-spark and was purchased from eBay (suggested search Electronic Igniter and I saw LIGHTER FOR GAS COOKER - ELECTRONIC IGNITER & BATTERY )..

When the battery was inserted the spark cam as soon as the button was pressed sparking between the wire electrode and the black metal case.

To open up this particular igniter there is a single screw access from the rear of the case using a very small cross head screw driver.

When open this is what you see. It is very important to keep a check on which wire goes where else failure is inevitable as electronic circuits do not work when powered back to front ie - and + reversed.

The push switch is held up by a piece of spring steel that may well be used in the project in another section.

When the spring is pressed it joins the + terminal of the battery to a little pad marked "terminal".

It is important to note which is the spark return and which is the spark. The spark return is common with the - terminal and would be attached to the chassis of the motor.

That going to the spark will be the HT going to the spark plug.

This is the PCB from inside the igniter - removed by releasing a small screw adjacent to the spring clip.. The various wires have been identified but note they refer only to this igniter others may be different.

It is very important to know which is the HT and which is the GROUND mixing these up will almost certainly ruin the igniter or worse.

The next stage will be to set up the igniter with a spark plug and prove or otherwise that a spark can be generated.

14th October 2010

The whole unit was taken to an friend who is up on electronics and he is to run some tests to see what is the potential to use the unit to create the spark.

17th October 2010

His tests have resulted in a spark across the spark plug so it does look like this idea might well work!!


20th October 2010

Further tests have shown that the automatic repeating spark can be stopped and the spark created on demand by removal of two components.

Due to the complexity of the electronics and the very high voltages generated ( likely to be in excess of 10,000V ) further experimentation must be left to those who under stand what they are doing.

Suffice to say that the use of this item does look exceedingly promising.

26th October 2010

The spark plug used is a :-

  • Traditional Spark Plug NGK Spark Plug CM-6 5812
  • Gap 0.016" (0.4mm)
  • Thread Size M10x1mm
  • Reach 8.6mm (.339")
  • Hex Size 9/16" (14.3mm)
  • Gasket Seat
  • Non-Resistor
  • Solid Terminal Nut
  • Heat Range 6

Better picture soon !!

16th October 2017

I have returned to the web diary of my build as I have changed the ignition system.

A friend of mine who has worked on cars and earlier on motor cycles offered to sort out the ignition system and help me to understand what is required.

The drawing may look like it is on the back of a "fag" packet but it is actually on the box in which the coil and capacitor were delivered to me.

Note that the positive connection of the battery goes to the chassis as it would have done on the motor cycle.

The following was suggested :-

12V Ignition Coil With Bracket Ideal for Classic BSA-Triumph-Norton-Motorcycle and a Lucas-Condenser-As-fitted-to-BSA-C11G-1954-5.

These were purchased from Ebay.
What can only be called a "lash up" was done to prove that it is a viable solution.

It is viable and a great spark is obtained even with a very short charging of the coil as the current arrangement allows.

The "points" have a small run where the contact touched before the breaking of the contact takes place causing the spark.

Having cranked the flywheel over many many times and sort of had a few firing a better way to turn over the engine was needed. Whilst I have no picture of that it was found that be depressing the inlet valve the flywheels would turn over and there was no compression.

An other lash up of an electric drill and a buffing head was put to goo use. By applying the buffing head to the flywheel and using the electric drill and with the inlet valve depressed the speed of the flywheel far exceeded that of the crank and soon the engine was spluttering to life and adjustment could be made to mixture and amount of air with the druill still cranking the engine.

It was found that the mixture needed to be set at one half a turn from fully closed and after the fuel had been sucked up the tube the choke cracked open.

The engine ran until the fuel ran out, as we were only using a small pot of fuel but the water did boil in the cooling head.

It has been decided that the engine would benefit from being able to adjust the timing point whilst it is running in addition to the fuel mixture and air ratios.

Work on the engine is therefore ongoing ...

 


TO BE CONTINUED